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		<title>By: MyTestCareer++; &#171; Testastic</title>
		<link>http://testastic.wordpress.com/2012/10/10/its-your-career-lead-it/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MyTestCareer++; &#171; Testastic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the case, the result of deep thinking of themes that are problematic to me. As example, I wrote my last post when I was thinking through what I wanted to work on next in my career and where I wanted to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the case, the result of deep thinking of themes that are problematic to me. As example, I wrote my last post when I was thinking through what I wanted to work on next in my career and where I wanted to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gennadiy</title>
		<link>http://testastic.wordpress.com/2012/10/10/its-your-career-lead-it/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gennadiy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice blog Brent!  Working with you over the years, I know that you put it in practice!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice blog Brent!  Working with you over the years, I know that you put it in practice!</p>
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		<title>By: BrentMJensen</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, James!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, James!</p>
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		<title>By: BrentMJensen</title>
		<link>http://testastic.wordpress.com/2012/10/10/its-your-career-lead-it/#comment-114</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my experience there are more good managers than bad, thankfully.   But there are still a lot of bad managers.   While bad managers can definitely leave a bad taste in your mouth, hopefully, I&#039;ve delivered some successful strategies to help folks deal with it and control their own destiny.   I&#039;m very glad you found a job that values you highly!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience there are more good managers than bad, thankfully.   But there are still a lot of bad managers.   While bad managers can definitely leave a bad taste in your mouth, hopefully, I&#8217;ve delivered some successful strategies to help folks deal with it and control their own destiny.   I&#8217;m very glad you found a job that values you highly!</p>
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		<title>By: BrentMJensen</title>
		<link>http://testastic.wordpress.com/2012/10/10/its-your-career-lead-it/#comment-113</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They could be learning something that is not relevant to their current job.   Like learning Ruby on a team that uses C#.   What I&#039;ve seen lately though, is folks who already have the high skill, but have been reorged into lesser scoped positions.  They aren&#039;t utilizing the skills (strengths) that they value.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could be learning something that is not relevant to their current job.   Like learning Ruby on a team that uses C#.   What I&#8217;ve seen lately though, is folks who already have the high skill, but have been reorged into lesser scoped positions.  They aren&#8217;t utilizing the skills (strengths) that they value.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
		<link>http://testastic.wordpress.com/2012/10/10/its-your-career-lead-it/#comment-112</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish more managers at Microsoft followed this...  I was very unhappy in test, and only a little happier in lab operations.  I got told by one of my last managers that I wasn&#039;t meeting the expectations he had of me, so I asked him what those expectations were - his answer was a classic example of what&#039;s wrong with Microsoft - &quot;I don&#039;t know yet, I&#039;m still trying to figure that out&quot;.  I took it to my skip-level manager and got the same answer, so I went to the GM, who I found out wanted me to move to his pet project, one that I had zero interest in, and thought was doomed to fail.  I have to wonder if the GM was stirring things up so that I couldn&#039;t stay in my current role and wouldn&#039;t be able to leave the team because of the lower review scores.  I left the company instead, and have received a lot of recognition and rewards from my new employer in the 1.5 years I&#039;ve been gone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish more managers at Microsoft followed this&#8230;  I was very unhappy in test, and only a little happier in lab operations.  I got told by one of my last managers that I wasn&#8217;t meeting the expectations he had of me, so I asked him what those expectations were &#8211; his answer was a classic example of what&#8217;s wrong with Microsoft &#8211; &#8220;I don&#8217;t know yet, I&#8217;m still trying to figure that out&#8221;.  I took it to my skip-level manager and got the same answer, so I went to the GM, who I found out wanted me to move to his pet project, one that I had zero interest in, and thought was doomed to fail.  I have to wonder if the GM was stirring things up so that I couldn&#8217;t stay in my current role and wouldn&#8217;t be able to leave the team because of the lower review scores.  I left the company instead, and have received a lot of recognition and rewards from my new employer in the 1.5 years I&#8217;ve been gone.</p>
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		<title>By: James.</title>
		<link>http://testastic.wordpress.com/2012/10/10/its-your-career-lead-it/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Testacular post, Brent! Passion, strengths, and challenges is a good way to summarize at a high-level the basis for the right team and position. Good way to think about it! I think your statement around your team valuing the strengths you bring to the table is KEY. You may find a product your are passionate about with some great challenges, but if you are held back in leveraging your strengths, particularly via a values mismatch, then you are in for a rough haul.

I also agree with you on visibility, but anyone that thinks that &quot;you need to grow your visibility&quot; is not a common message from managers at a larger company like Microsoft is naive, particularly at the more senior levels. Although I always like to think that results and growing the business in an effective way (the &quot;how&quot;)  will promote visibility on its own, the honest truth is that it rarely happens that way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Testacular post, Brent! Passion, strengths, and challenges is a good way to summarize at a high-level the basis for the right team and position. Good way to think about it! I think your statement around your team valuing the strengths you bring to the table is KEY. You may find a product your are passionate about with some great challenges, but if you are held back in leveraging your strengths, particularly via a values mismatch, then you are in for a rough haul.</p>
<p>I also agree with you on visibility, but anyone that thinks that &#8220;you need to grow your visibility&#8221; is not a common message from managers at a larger company like Microsoft is naive, particularly at the more senior levels. Although I always like to think that results and growing the business in an effective way (the &#8220;how&#8221;)  will promote visibility on its own, the honest truth is that it rarely happens that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Faber</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Faber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right on!   Hope you don&#039;t mind if I quote you in my exit interview.  Two things in this intrigued me - 1) your triad of &quot;product that drives passion&quot;, &quot;team that values application of their strengths&quot;, and &quot;job that challenges&quot; reminded me of Daniel Pink&#039;s Purpose / Autonomy / Growth as the three things that make people happy in their jobs.   2) the Theory of Flow chart doesn&#039;t make sense to me - how can someone be learning if they&#039;re not being challenged?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on!   Hope you don&#8217;t mind if I quote you in my exit interview.  Two things in this intrigued me &#8211; 1) your triad of &#8220;product that drives passion&#8221;, &#8220;team that values application of their strengths&#8221;, and &#8220;job that challenges&#8221; reminded me of Daniel Pink&#8217;s Purpose / Autonomy / Growth as the three things that make people happy in their jobs.   2) the Theory of Flow chart doesn&#8217;t make sense to me &#8211; how can someone be learning if they&#8217;re not being challenged?</p>
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